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Old Mon 14th September 2015, 10:18 PM
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That's a top idea Hadn't heard of them before today, hopefully there is a small sized one that will fit in the stock spot. Also thinking seriously about a dual battery setup, but with the second batt in the back of the car. Can't find any solid information or examples of this though, all the dual battery setups on youtube etc have the second batt in the engine bay...would it be okay to have the battery in the boot with a long run of heavy cable for charging? and another for earth return, with the changeover relay in the engine bay. If it's the boot I'm thinking custom battery box sunk into the floor so I don't loose any storage space Haven't looked properly or measured anything yet though.
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Old Tue 15th September 2015, 07:34 PM
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Lightbulb Battery Systems ...

I'd get a standard Battery holder / box for in the front & get a second smaller 'backup' Auxiliary battery - one of them new type ( can't think of the name atm ) and put in spare wheel well ( assuming that's free space ) + keep the run of cable short, as it looses efficiency the longer you make the cables ...

As far as I know there's a few examples to follow on here, you just need a 'management' box that keeps things happy & locate it as close as possible to alternator to reduce power loss ... :/

This sketch is similar to what I'm think of using : ( I'd also add a solar panel to keep it charged )



More info here : http://www.redarc.com.au/handy-hints..._battery_setup

Damn not cheap though - Gotta start gathering bits for my project now ...

Add : Super cheaper etc. do have 'Projector' kits :

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You probably only need the 100 type one for your application ...

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Old Tue 15th September 2015, 10:21 PM
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a battery for a Chrysler Sebring has terminals on the front face so may be a good one for a spare wheel well mounting spot
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Old Tue 15th September 2015, 11:33 PM
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Sometimes wonder how you know these things Jonno

The the thing I would use a second battery for most would be for running a fridge or camping accessories in the boot, so I was thinking of a deep cycle AGM (optima yellow top) 75AH I think is the smallest they do, and being sealed gel cell you can mount them sideways too. Boot was preferable because I haven't yet ruled out keeping a spare wheel in the engine bay...if that's even possible with 15" wheels, perhaps a space saver for everyday use and if I want a full sized spare for when I'm camping I would have a rear wheel carrier. Although sinking the aux battery into the floor maybe impossible; had a look at the spot I was thinking about today and there's a chassis rail directly below Space on the other side of fuel tank reserved for muffler...hmmm Could have put it where the jack usually goes in the engine bay but not now its painted and I think some A/C components go there as well. It is still just a dream at this stage after all
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Exclamation Batteries ...

Sorry for 'hi jacking' your thread Silverbullet - as we've gone a bit of topic, but here is what I'm thinking of using :



More info here : http://lithiumpros.com/lithium-pros-...r-drag-racing/

The Li-ion battery has some advantage of being small & light weight - will fit just about anywhere with a couple of options :
  • In the side pocket
  • Under seat
  • On the floor

Down sides is cost & dubious reputation for spontaneous combustion ...

Add : Found a cheaper option :



More details : http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-A...022381177.html

Dunno if that helps you or not ...

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Old Wed 16th September 2015, 03:11 PM
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This is all on topic for me Funny you should mention lithium batteries, I was looking at that option myself as well. There's a few different lithium cell technologies, I think lithium-ferrous (LiFepo4) would be the safest for car use; higher charge rate, higher discharge rate, alot less prone to bursting into flames I was looking at something like this although it's only 60ah, you can use almost all of the 60 so it is equivalent to a 100ah lead acid/gel cell, smaller and about half the weight. Depends where you look for price though, can be as high as $1k or as low as $400. And with any lithium cell technology you need specific charging, balancing and monitoring equipment.

If you can get all the charging gear right I thinking lithium ferrous batteries are a really good idea as a second battery for running things like fridge, lighting etc. The one linked above has a "best charging current" of 50% of capacity so 30 amps, absolute max is less than 3x capacity, which means you don't have to run welding cable to it from the charging system of your car Or rather, run a cable to the battery charger.
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Today I took the headlining out to do the wiring for all the lights up there plus the CB which will be up there, since I have nowhere to store the big, flimsy fragile headlining I took it straight to a trim shop to be re-trimmed. Will give me enough time to finish the wiring in the roof + sound deadening so when it comes back I can put it straight back in, no chance of it sitting around to have things fall on it

On the way home I stopped off at Jaycar for a few things, found some very useful things too, including a 12v intermittent timer, so now....

THE WIPERS WORK!!!!

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Since not been working I've pretty much spent nearly 8 hours a day working on the wagon instead So the complete re-wire which I thought was going to take months will only be weeks instead. Since last post I've got a basic loom down to the tail end now i.e tail lights, wiper+washer, fuel sensor plus a few other things AND a dedicated power feed down to the back for some accessory sockets.

The peg board came in handy again but this time I strung up the old tail end loom including the part that is inside the tailgate and the bit that goes under the back end to the LH tail lights, and just used the old loom to get the length and positioning right for the new wires. Then I took the new wiring down and laid it out in the car, fished the tailgate bit through all the bodywork (nightmare ) and I have spent all today connecting up the rear loom section to the front end section by the drivers right knee. The factory loom had 2 big connectors here, but I don't think I'll bother and just have it all one piece. I'm thinking the only big connector I'll have will be for the engine bay section as I'll need to cut all these to fit the firewall grommet.

Also the drivers footwell needed some attention as the old sound deadening tar had turned to goo the last year I was driving the car the rear passenger door leaked and every rainy night there would be a puddle in the drivers footwell; parked on a slope. Getting all that crap off was a total nightmare, heating it up just turned it to treacle and gummed up every scraping tool I could find, wouldn't chip off since it was too gummy. Spent 2 days scraping away at it and finished it off with a wire wheel and just scrubbed everything back to bare metal and resprayed it. Thankfully all the other original tar was brittle enough to chip off.

So now I've got a nice clean base to put the new sound deadener on.

This is some of the new stuff on the roof, "Resomat" which is cheaper than "Dynamat" but what all BMWs and ADF vehicles use supposedly

Here's my under-dash wiring at the moment. Interior fuse box is 95% done and I've got most of the dash wires in there, plus everything for the brake lights etc.

The new rear loom even still fits in the original cable clips!


Next is to start connecting everything up in the tail end!
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It's been a pretty epic day today

Heaps of goodies arrived in the mail which means I could finish wiring up the plugs for the tail end of the car. So now everything including the wiper and defogger (when the glass gets installed) is wired up and working! I used relays to drive the wiper and defogger as they're probably the most power hungry parts down the back. I recycled 2 old relays I cut out of the dash loom that came from NZ and have them mounted in the cavity where the old brake light checker unit usually is (I'm not running the checker unit anymore, so no more brake warning light either)

The tailgate loom and the tail lights loom are 2 separate pieces, which together plug into the main loom which runs to the front of the car. I used all new plugs as well. Ignore the relay dangling by its leads, that gets bolted up inside the rear quarter panel.


And time for a little test Had to take a video to check for myself if the lights were working. Funny thing, those LED flasher cans make zero noise! No clicking whatsoever so when I tested them the first time I thought I'd made a boo boo somewhere...check the video and all working perfectly! No reverse lights yet as the gearbox switches aren't wired up.

To top it all off, I've got 2 job interview/meetings lined up in 2 days

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Great work so far ...

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(I'm not running the checker unit anymore, so no more brake warning light either)
Might want to check whether you can do this with your rego guy though - as my understanding of all restoration works should be compliant with ADR rules at time of manufacture. Not withstanding - I think it had something to do with 'Driver Assistance' or something like that ...

Add : Tried looking it up but couldn't find what I'm after ...

Keep at it ...

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